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Isabel 12-02-2007 01:04 PM

HELLO AND QUESTION FROM A NEWBIE
 
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Hello everyone! I Googled "gold coin forum" and well, here I am.

My old boyfriend gave me a one-ounce gold Maple Leaf a couple years ago that I had the jeweler drill a little hole at the top for a chain so I could wear it as a necklace. The jeweler tried to sell me a very expensive gold holder similar to the one in the attached photo. The hole drilling and chain loop cost me only $10. Women give me many compliments but a few men lecture that drilling a hole in it was blasphemy. This type of man usually ends up asking me for a date for some reason. In any event, this gold coin necklace is a great ice-breaker in starting conversations. Just leaving the undrilled Maple Leaf in my jeweley chest made no sense. Why have it? I met my present boyfriend at an Awards Dinner last year while wearing it and he is a gold bug. He refuses to give his opinion on this matter so as not to offend. Wise man.

Two questions for this forum:

1 - Is drilling a hole in a gold coin really blasphemy?

2 - Will perspiration and body lotion from my skin stain a gold coin?


:rose:

drewfu 12-02-2007 01:08 PM

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Drilling blasphemy? I don't think so, as you said, it made no sense to have it sitting in a box somewhere.

I have lots of gold just sitting somewhere without drilled holes but it makes sense to me.

NOTHING can tarnish gold -- NOTHING

eyeofliberty 12-02-2007 01:08 PM

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Hello Isabel! Welcome to GIM!

Yes, generally, drilling a gold coin is bad, if you will someday be selling the coin.

But, since you are wearing this as jewelry, seem to have every intention of keeping it, and you enjoy wearing it as-is, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

And perspiration won't stain it.

Tribes 12-02-2007 01:13 PM

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The Great Ag 12-02-2007 01:21 PM

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Hey, Isabel:

Welcome to GIM. This is a fun place to learn. About your question, I am a numismatist, so drilling holes or defacing coins is a MAJOR no no. I have coins that I only handle with cotton gloves. That being said, I do have gold and silver coins that are meant to be handled, carried around in my pocket and shown to friends and family. I would see your gold maple as your show piece. Be proud of it, but realize that with the hole, you will get less than spot price if you sell it.

Your second question regarding skin oils and body lotions, do not worry about them. If the maple becomes discolored, use your jewelry cleaning solution to remove any residues. I do not recommend this action for numismatic coins, but for a common piece of jewelry that is for show, it is okay.

Lastly, continue to have fun with the maple. Which side do you show, the maple leaf or the clown. . .err. . .I mean the queen.

The Great Ag

Sheepdog 12-02-2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabel (Post 855415)
1 - Is drilling a hole in a gold coin really blasphemy?

Yes.

BTW, what are you doing Friday night?

Jekyll7 12-02-2007 01:49 PM

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1. Not really. I don't like to see it, but bullion is bullion, Maples are not numismatic coins. Lots of them get melted down for use by jewellers. Since you probably don't intend to sell it, the value that has been removed is a moot point.

2. No. 24K gold is chemically non-reactive, unlike alloyed golds which contain other metals that may react to oils and sweat.

TomD 12-02-2007 01:50 PM

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Drilling did lower the value of the coin but that would only be important if you intend to sell.

Here is a necklace that I made for my wife using a French "Luck Angel" coin.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...luckyangel.jpg

goldminer 12-02-2007 06:47 PM

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The hold is an area now void of pure gold. What happened to the gold that was drilled out? Bet the jewelry didn't sweep it into the trash can. Fact is that you paid $10.00 plus the value of the gold that used to fill the hold area. Let's see....at the current gold spot of US$785.00 per ounce, how much was the pure gold worth that was drilled out of the coin?

Answer....ask the jeweler who drilled it to weigh it and do the math re value.

Silver Gorilla 12-02-2007 06:48 PM

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Wellcom to GIM Isabel
Your gold necklace coin looks very beautiful, Its a keeper :wink: Just remember it's gift from someone else's heart to your's.

Hay TomD, that gold frenchy coin took my breath away :applause_

Maddie 12-02-2007 09:57 PM

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Welcome to the forum!

1) It's not blasphemy... Okay, I lied. It's blasphemy! :D At any rate, it would make most of us cringe! At least it was a gold Maple Leaf. Had it been, say, a 1-oz. gold Australian lunar dragon, you would probably hear much more wailing and gnashing of teeth. Seriously, though, you did devalue the coin, but so what? If you're not planning to sell it, no big deal. At this point, it's only worth the weight of the gold if you sell it, which, given the way gold has gone up in the past couple of years, is still pretty good! Enjoy it!

2) The gold is safe. It might need cleaning eventually. If it were a numismatic piece, that wouldn't be a good thing, but since it already has a hole drilled in it, it doesn't matter.

Wyldwil 12-02-2007 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabel (Post 855415)
and he is a god bug.

Please move this thread to the faith and religion sub-forum.....

.....kidding.....I kid!.......:rolleyes_m:

Welcome.

This forum needs more women, the male members seem to be on their best behavior when more women are around.

And we've all been very cranky lately.....
......teetering on the brink of total financial collapse tends to make people a touch irritible.:wink:

Oh yeah, nice Maple.
You know they make a .99999 Pure one now??
That's right......5 9's.
Nice.

foolsgold 12-02-2007 10:17 PM

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Isabel welcome to the forum. Basically you transformed the coin from having a value greater than spot to having a value less than spot (scrap). It is not a big deal, I have many coins I wear but I spend the extra money on coin bezels.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...y/DSC00398.jpg

Isabel 12-02-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TomD (Post 855484)
Here is a necklace that I made for my wife using a French "Luck Angel" coin.


Every woman who reads that envies your wife for many reasons Tom. Stunning image!


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Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 856290)
I have many coins I wear but I spend the extra money on coin bezels.

How much do gold bezels cost? I can drop that hint to my bf while he is Christmas shopping for a Gold Panda. wink.

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Originally Posted by Wyldwil (Post 856284)
Please move this thread to the faith and religion sub-forum...

LOL. I'll correct that typo. Actually, my father resents my bf because he isn't Jewish or religious like us. LOL.

Thank you all for your comments and advice!

:rose:

foolsgold 12-02-2007 10:54 PM

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Isabel a 14K coin bezel for a 1 ounce coin will cost from $75-$100.

I paid $89 for the bezel holding the 50 peso coin in the picture and I bought it from this place: http://www.findingking.com
Just search on bezels....He has good prices.

Just make sure you get a bezel with the screw top as opposed to the ones that have some thing in back holding the coin in place.

All the best.

EE_ 12-02-2007 10:59 PM

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Welcome, nice to see another gold bugette here!
Maybe you could get the new gold bug to give you gold too?
I think a nice french rooster or sovereign coin charm bracelet would go well with the necklace. Maybe a pair of pamp suisse "Gold Dream" or Aussie Orianas 2 1/2 gram earings too?
EE

Jack London 12-02-2007 11:08 PM

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Welcome Isabel. But you look like a Donna to me.

Bill57 12-03-2007 12:43 AM

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You didn't want to buy a "very expensive" coin holder, but you would buy a bezel for $75? You should have purchased the holder, IMO.

hugo_danner 12-03-2007 12:54 AM

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I'm sure one of the lower levels of Dante's Inferno are reserved for those who drill holes in gold coins. Don't do it! No, no, no!!!!!!!!!!:shocked_ma:

Isabel 12-03-2007 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 856323)
I paid $89 for the bezel holding the 50 peso coin in the picture and I bought it from this place: http://www.findingking.com
Just search on bezels....He has good prices.

Foolsgold just demonstrated why this forum is such a wonderful resource. That link is exactly what I have been searching for!

The reason why I chose to drill the coin is because my jeweler wanted $200 for his bezel. We see now, thanks to Foolsgold, that a gold bezel costs much less and can be attached using a little screwdriver.

Thank you so much Foolsgold!

Isabel 12-03-2007 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by EE_ (Post 856331)
Welcome, nice to see another gold bugette here!
Maybe you could get the new gold bug to give you gold too?
I think a nice french rooster or sovereign coin charm bracelet would go well with the necklace. Maybe a pair of pamp suisse "Gold Dream" or Aussie Orianas 2 1/2 gram earings too?
EE

We think alike EE. wink.
:rose:

Golden Bagel 12-28-2007 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skyvike (Post 857149)
Isabel,

First, welcome to GIM. Please stay.

Second, drilling a gold coin is not "blasphemy" unless of course, your God is a Gold Maple Leaf! <grin> Collectors would never consider doing it, especially to a rare coin (which yours is not). If you had drilled a hole in a priceless antique, that would be one thing. A nice piece of gold you want to wear around your neck? No big deal. It is, after all, YOUR gold coin, no?

Seriously, you lost a small bit of gold by drilling but so what? You've enjoyed wearing it and started some conversations/relationships. Seems worth the cost to me.

If I had gotten here soon enough, I would have suggested the bezel as well but that's well handled.

Please hang around and read about all the good reasons to buy gold and silver and share your own thoughts and questions. You'll find a lot of great minds here (and a few small ones - that's why we have an "ignore" feature).

Again, welcome.

Thanks to this great thread all my nieces received AGE necklaces for Christmas. The bezel idea was very helpful. The girls love them!

blueice 12-29-2007 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TomD (Post 855484)
Drilling did lower the value of the coin but that would only be important if you intend to sell.

Here is a necklace that I made for my wife using a French "Luck Angel" coin.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...luckyangel.jpg

What a beautiful gift, Tom!!!!

poor boy 12-31-2007 08:45 PM

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Why was Isabel banned?

Atahualpa 12-31-2007 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by poor boy (Post 896438)
Why was Isabel banned?

Isabel was in drag, she was a he...a well known he.

Ulysses 12-31-2007 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by poor boy (Post 896438)
Why was Isabel banned?

Scientific curiosity, "newbie"?

Atahualpa 12-31-2007 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulysses (Post 896494)
Scientific curiosity, "newbie"?

Testing the waters...can't let it go! :D


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